؟ ([personal profile] dramatispersonae) wrote2012-05-10 05:13 pm

Iolite

[Upon entering your team's cloud of mist, you find yourselves transported to a bare stone room with a single stone table and chairs. (The chairs have been bolted to the floor.) On the table are a 16 red stones, 8 blue stones, and a 2 black stones. There are also indentations around the edge of the table, each one marked in the color of one of the teams.]
arbiterary: (little animal are you lost?)

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[personal profile] arbiterary 2012-05-10 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the most merciful option.

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-10 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that depends on just what a red stone does. Do we even know that much?
sticksofthejedi: (gentle)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-10 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There's an interesting perspective. Which is more merciful, a slap on the wrist for everyone, or as hard a hit as you can muster for one?

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-10 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And you know it's just gonna be a "slap on the wrist" how?
sticksofthejedi: By Shea Standefer, for Star Wars Galaxy cards (practicality)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know what the scale is. But it's still causing the least harm to each, compared with the most harm we can subject to one.

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-10 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't agree with his plan, but I think yours is shit too. You're not putting a stone on Sapphire or Kunzite or I'll make sure you won't be walking for at least a month, got it?
sticksofthejedi: (attentive)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-10 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Do it. I have attachments to Sapphire and Tiger's Eye, as well as a knight I care about on Jasper. They'd understand why I'm suggesting this -- and if you think breaking my legs, or whatever other harm you might like to inflict on me, would even that out later, then I'll accept that.

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-10 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, you're gonna order me around now, huh?

The answer's "no", though that should've gone without saying.
sticksofthejedi: (Cool Kid Exit)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Calling your threat is me ordering you around?

If you wouldn't go with either plan, what would you suggest?

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-11 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
"Calling it" suggests it was a veiled threat. I think it was pretty clear to everyone exactly what I meant.

I mean the part where you expect me to do it later and then just get revenge after the fact. That's against the whole point. . . what the fuck do I want with revenge? What's that gonna accomplish?

I wanna protect the things I wanna protect. You can't save everyone, so let's save the ones that matter to us the most. What's so wrong with that?
sticksofthejedi: (attentive)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-11 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
We can't control whether any of the other teams target the ones you want to protect. What I'm suggesting is minimizing the damage to everyone -- the idea is to keep from laying too much on anyone.

This is a situation where we can't really save anyone. But we can try damage control.

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-11 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I can control whether or not I damage the things I'm supposed to protect.

You're outvoted, so just deal with it and move on already.

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arbiterary: (what do I care for plot relevance)

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[personal profile] arbiterary 2012-05-10 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[nods in agreement]

Not Kunzite.
fallinflames: (what?)

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[personal profile] fallinflames 2012-05-11 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
...

Then I'll say it again. Which team?

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-11 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Take the teams we want to protect off the table and spread it around whatever's left.
fallinflames: (what interests me...)

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[personal profile] fallinflames 2012-05-11 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
... It's a compromise, I could work with...

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[personal profile] uroboric 2012-05-11 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Well, try to keep it to one or two teams for your choice. The more we protect, the more the rest will have to bear.

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arbiterary: (I've got twenty bank accounts)

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[personal profile] arbiterary 2012-05-10 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
It likely if everyone gives evenly then none will be spared.
sticksofthejedi: (attentive)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-10 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
The odds seem to be against teams being spared, regardless.
arbiterary: (ro...ar...)

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[personal profile] arbiterary 2012-05-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
You just don't want to be culpable.
sticksofthejedi: (Cool Kid Exit)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-11 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid you've misjudged me. This would minimize the damage to each person, without flinching away from anything -- it treats everyone equally.
arbiterary: (look to the sky)

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[personal profile] arbiterary 2012-05-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
That will be every herbivore's strategy. It will minimize nothing.
sticksofthejedi: (dubious)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-11 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
You're not a wolf, Hibrai, and these people aren't lambs. There's likely someone on every team flinching away from a strategy that would deal damage to a team they've got a connection to, just like you are.
arbiterary: (this is your choice)

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[personal profile] arbiterary 2012-05-11 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Your clever strategies aren't clever, they're obvious. And they will not ensure anyone's protection; they are for your own self-satisfaction that you 'did what you could'. That is why they are the strategies all of the teams will flock to.
sticksofthejedi: (Default)

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[personal profile] sticksofthejedi 2012-05-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying what I suggested is clever. Your ideas aren't either -- and likely at least partly motivated by your desire not to harm a particular team. What are you afraid of, Hibari?

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